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Title: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on June 28, 2013, 07:27:28 am
HOLY COW!

Today I made several drawings for a new patent application.
Instead of going the SolidWorks/Illustrator route, I gave the Toon material in KS4.1 a shot. Boy, oh boy, does it look nice!!
Yesterday's webinar delivered the necessary epiphany... ;) I realized that the wood procedural (as diffuse texture on Toon) could be tweaked to mimic straight-line hatching.

It's a pity I can't share the images I made, but for anyone involved in patent work: please do give the combo Toon + procedural textures a try. You'll be blown away!

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: guest84672 on June 28, 2013, 09:35:58 am
That is awesome. Any pushback from the Illustrator guys yet?
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: PhilippeV8 on June 28, 2013, 10:19:54 am
Shame it doesn't output as vector files ... Else I could (finaly) drop the 3D Via software ...  2D line drawings HAVE to be vector ai files over at our company.
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on June 28, 2013, 12:05:47 pm
I grabbed something from grabcad and quickly turned it into patent graphics.
Does this sort of make my case stronger? ;)

Pure KeyShot.

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on June 28, 2013, 12:15:01 pm
Also very cool in situations where color is permitted.

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on June 28, 2013, 12:19:44 pm
That is awesome. Any pushback from the Illustrator guys yet?

My strategy for now is to rub output straight from KeyShot into their faces until they succumb. :D
I have to admit that the vector fortress is quite strong though...

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Ed on June 28, 2013, 12:29:23 pm
Dries - Nice work on the hatch effect.

I'm beginning to think the toon material will get used a lot.

Makes me wonder what it may lead to further.  KS layer to type in text legends and arrows?  Automatic vector trace/output?

Ed
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: NDenekamp on June 28, 2013, 12:43:36 pm
Dries, would you be better off using marble for the hatches? Wood is concentric marble planar..  Maybe make materials for each e.g. X 45, X -45, Y 45, Y -45, etc..

Looks very good though, very crisp as well! I wonder what would happen if you would take it into illustrator and use it as a basis to create vector lines!


N
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on June 28, 2013, 12:52:08 pm
Dries, would you be better off using marble for the hatches? Wood is concentric marble planar..  Maybe make materials for each e.g. X 45, X -45, Y 45, Y -45, etc..

Looks very good though, very crisp as well! I wonder what would happen if you would take it into illustrator and use it as a basis to create vector lines!


N

Great suggestion. Niels!

I hadn't looked any further than wood. Wood works great though if you use the mapping tool to rotate the mapping 90 degrees. Does away with the concentrism. Besides, you only apply hatches to planar faces.

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: NDenekamp on June 28, 2013, 01:29:38 pm
Dries, true! but only if the axis is in the same plane as that surface, right?

I did a quick test to create hatching going diagonally one way, and the other, depending on the orientation of the surface. On the left with marble, on the right with wood. Basicaly the entire hatches surface is a single material. you can see the concentric nature paying up in the right one a little. I did find you get sharper lines from the wood, the marble shows more of a gradient.

N
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Speedster on June 28, 2013, 02:23:11 pm
I have only one patent attorney I work with that requires vectors.  All the others, including the internal for a major medical device firm, just use jpeg's, which I create as TIFF's first in SolidWorks.  But I've heard you can convert raster to vector in Photoshop.  I just searched, and found this link-  may help.  http://www.ehow.com/how_5130774_convert-vector-photoshop.html (http://www.ehow.com/how_5130774_convert-vector-photoshop.html)   

My clients are excited about toons, as they open up a whole new world in communication.  And what's amazing is how many of us are coming up with uses we would never have dreamed of last week. 

Bill G
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: guest84672 on June 29, 2013, 12:35:56 pm
Awesome - keep pushing it!
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Robb63 on June 30, 2013, 05:47:11 pm
I took your CAD drawing and ran through "Live Trace" in Illustrator. Not too bad, there are tons of settings in there and with more tweaking it could probably nail it.
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: PhilippeV8 on July 01, 2013, 05:36:19 am
I want to see Live Trace nail it ...  ;) :o
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on July 03, 2013, 01:01:38 am
We are just filing our first patent using 100% UNEDITED Toon output! ;)

Thanks, KeyShot... ;D

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Speedster on July 03, 2013, 06:15:36 am
Quote
We are just filing our first patent using 100% UNEDITED Toon output!

Ditto yesterday for an amended filing.  PA was blown away, as we did them during a GtoM.  Had to work a bit getting the line weights correct to application standards, but now I'm working up a new folder for Patent Drawings.
Bill G
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: guest84672 on July 03, 2013, 06:17:41 am
That is awesome! Would be nice to see the patent application.
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Speedster on September 13, 2013, 09:07:14 am
NDA's prohibit sharing until the granting, but I'll try to work something up to show.
Bill G
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: DriesV on January 26, 2015, 03:36:04 am
In case anyone's interested...
Here's my first published patent application with KeyShot Toon. :)
link (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=EP&NR=2824399A2&KC=A2&FT=D&ND=3&date=20150114&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&locale=nl_BE)

Dries
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: mafrieger on December 27, 2015, 01:36:22 am
maybe some of you are still also interested in vector export directly from KS?
just opened an item in "wishlist"
maybe you wouls like to comment on it..
https://www.keyshot.com/forum/index.php?topic=11735.0
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Will Gibbons on May 26, 2016, 08:03:05 am
Still not sure why I haven't done any Toon renderings. I love how it works and some of the results... just need to give it a try! Your work with the toon material Dries, is definitely awesome.
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Josh Richman on November 02, 2016, 02:22:31 pm
Will you guys share the patent toon materials?
Title: Re: TOON MATERIAL FOR PATENT FIGURES!!!
Post by: Finema on November 02, 2016, 09:12:24 pm
Will you guys share the patent toon materials?

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